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? >> guest: his mother couldn't afford to send them there. those 3.5 years, he is in indonesia, immersed in the language. the mother is waking up at 4:00 a.m. to teach him with english schoolbooks to supplement his learning. it is very difficult. and the whole process was something that she realized that she loved indonesia, she was still married, she wanted to stay. but it was coming to a point where she had to make a key decision. it turned out that he could get into the best elite private schools in honolulu, so he went back in fifth grade to start their. >> host: he lived with his grandparents in honolulu in an apartment? >> guest: yes, they moved to an apartment. it was five blocks from the school. he lived there from fifth grade through his senior year. >> host: from ages 11 to 18 years old? >> guest: yes, that is correct. there were some subtle changes. his mother to come back. she came back to study in graduate school. they live a couple blocks away for about two years. then she went back indonesia again. the bulk of that. maxima that's what happened. >> host: that was 1971 going
from others. but me cite one example. indonesia, perhaps my favorite example. if the government has dedicated itself to creating civilian legal structures and law enforcement institutions to fight terrorism effect in late, comprehensively and within the rule of law. indonesia has scored more than 100 consecutive convictions in terrorist cases for national places had major successes in breaking up terrorist future muslim yet another violent extremists organizations. anyone who thinks back eight or nine years for a decade will remember many of us thought at the time and did misha hung in the balance and was unlikely to survive his bout with extremism. no one thinks that now had any discussion of the landscape in southeast asia is frequently admitted. the point here is capacity building can work it must continue innovate to prove efficacy. it said at the outset that the beginning of the administration were determined to better java countering violent extremism. so then they tell you of our efforts to delegitimize the terrorist narrative. undersecretary clinton's leadership established
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